Scientific Way to Discredit Ground Temperature Measurements
File this one under “why didn’t I think of that.” We at CO2isLife have made countless posts about how the ground measurements are corrupted beyond repair due to the Urban Heat Island Effect and atmospheric water vapor.
In fact just yesterday we were writing about it.
Isolating the Impact of CO2 on Atmospheric Temperatures; Conclusion is CO2 has No Measurable Impact
Up until now, however, all people could do was to document the problems and post comical images about the issue. (Source)
Now someone has discovered a simple, effective, and inexpensive way to quantify the problem. Thermal imaging the area around the measuring units/Stevenson Screens.
For a whopping $249 anyone can document the thermal image of a Stevenson Screen. (Source)
Congress, NASA, and NOAA now have a way to document and quantify the impact of the Urban Heat Island Effect on the ground measurements.
My bet is NASA and NOAA will avoid documenting this issue so Congress will have to force them to do so.
The fact that NASA and NOAA haven’t already thought of this idea proves that they are either incompetent or corrupt, and neither is acceptable.
These images are pretty damning for the ground measurement crowd.
More on this topic (Source)
My bet is that NASA and NOAA won’t be in any hurry to ensure the integrity of their Stevenson Screens simply because they aren’t interested in the truth.
They will continue to claim their “adjustments” are the best way to address the issue.
That, of course, is absurd when you have a physical way to actually measure the impact.
No real scientist would accept an estimate over an actual direct measurement.
As the following post details, the actions of guilty people often give away their true motives.
In this case, NASA and NOAA want to perpetuate the lie, and thermal imaging works against that objective.
Therefore they won’t act. If that is the case, Congress must force the issue.
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jerry krause
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Hi Guys and Gals at CO2 is Life,
“We at CO2isLife have made countless posts about how the ground measurements are corrupted beyond repair due to the Urban Heat Island Effect and atmospheric water vapor.”
Do you not know that ground temperatures have not been made in Urban Heat Islands? Do you not know that is the air temperature about 1.5 meter above the ground that is being measured. Do you not know that the publishers of ‘Dialogues Concerning Two New Sciences’ in their preface as translated by Henry Crew and Alfonso de Salvio (1914) wrote: “intuitive knowledge keeps pace with accurate definition”?
Have a good day, Jerry
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CO2isLife
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Ground measurements certainly do measure the Urban Heat Island Effect. Where did you hear they don’t? Search CO2isLife for Ceteris Paribus and you will find a dramatic example.
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jerry krause
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Hi Guys and Gals at CO2 is Life,
Study the data of actual surface temperatures measurements relative to air temperatures being measured at the same time at sites not located in cities.(https://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/uscrn/products/hourly02/)
Have a good day, Jerry
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Kirye
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Hello. I took those photos, so please cite the source NTZ along with a link ( Thermal Imaging Shows Japan’s Recent Record High Temp An Artefact Of Urban Heat Sinks! http://notrickszone.com/2018/08/01/thermal-imaging-shows-japans-recent-record-high-temp-an-artefact-of-the-urban-heat-sinks/ )
Thank you.
Proper citation of sources is fair and a usual act of common courtesy.
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Kirye
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Hello. I took those photos, so please cite the source NTZ along with a link.
Thank you.
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Kirye
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Hello. I took those photos, so please cite the source NTZ along with a link(Thermal Imaging Shows Japan’s Recent Record High Temp An Artefact Of Urban Heat Sinks! http://notrickszone.com/2018/08/01/thermal-imaging-shows-japans-recent-record-high-temp-an-artefact-of-the-urban-heat-sinks/).
Thank you.
Proper citation of sources is fair and a usual act of common courtesy.
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Kirye
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Since I got two errors, so I posted continuously. Excuse me.
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Alan Thorpe
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Since 71% of the earth’s surface is covered by water why the emphasis on the land temperatures? What does an global average surface temperature mean anyway?
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jerry krause
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Hi Tom,
Good question. But the first problem that needs to be addressed is the difference between the air temperature 1.5 meter (or so) above the surface and the temperature of the surface. From the seldom considered data of land surface temperature measurements and air temperature measurements one can see that air temperature is often (usually) not a good proxy for the surface temperature as has been the common practice forever.
So from the surface temperature measurements we are forced to address the issue of ‘skin temperature’. That the surface layer is a layer of atoms (molecules) that separates the atmosphere (air) from the molecules beneath the surface (skin) of the condensed matter (be it solid (land, ground) or liquid (sea).
On one hand land (soil) is a simpler system to study because it does not move but then on the other hand soil is porous with macroscopic spaces between particles filled with air. So it is not really condensed matter like liquid water which has only microscopic spaces between water molecules.
Having focused your attention on the ‘skin’ between a gas and a solid or liquid I will review something more we know about this skin, which is seldom addressed. Physicists such as Richard Feynman understand that an absorbing skin of opaque (not transparent) condensed matter is a good reflector because radiation cannot get very far inside the matter to be absorbed. Now Carl Brehmer and I often do not agree but he more than two years ago drew my attention to a simply observed fact. Which is a glass surface gets warm (even ‘hot’) when solar radiation is directly incident upon it. Carl and I know this is because glass is opaque to a infrared portion of the solar radiation will it is transparent to the visible portion of the solar radiation. Because IR is invisible to our eyes, we have no idea about what (how much) IR is being reflected.
Liquid water, like glass, is also opaque to a portion of the Invisible IR. We do not know how many layers of molecules in the skin this radiation, which is strongly absorbed, penetrates. So we do not know how thick a layer of water molecules are ‘heated) when they absorb this invisible solar IR.
Because we cool many of our heat engines with water, we might tend to imagine that liquid water is a good thermal conductor. But the fact is remove the heat from our heat engines we must force the circulation of the coolant and we must blow (force) air through the radiator.
So I don’t know what the various properties of water’s skin are. I don’t even know if the instrument used to measure the ground (soil and vegetation) surface temperature has been used to measure water’s surface temperature as has been down in the case of the routine measurement of the ground surface temperature has been done at more than 100 land sites.
Just something to ponder.
Have a good day, Jerry
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