Microbiologists: Tests shows lockdown is actually harmful
Two California physicians with advanced degrees in microbiology contend that their testing of more than 5,200 patients along with public data show the coronavirus is no more deadly than the seasonal flu and that the sheltering-in-place policy in the United States and most of the Western world not only is unnecessary, it’s harmful.
Drs. Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi, co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California, told reporters their testing and the data worldwide indicate the case fatality rate is less than one-tenth of 1{154653b9ea5f83bbbf00f55de12e21cba2da5b4b158a426ee0e27ae0c1b44117}.
“Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no.”
Erickson explained that for hundreds of years, societies have relied on herd immunity to fight viruses.
“Viruses kill people. End of story. The flu kills people. Covid kills people. But for the rest of us, we develop herd immunity. We develop the ability to take this virus in and defeat it,” he said.
“And for the vast majority — 95{154653b9ea5f83bbbf00f55de12e21cba2da5b4b158a426ee0e27ae0c1b44117} of those around the globe — this is true. And when we look at people that have locked down and people that haven’t locked down, we have massive data.
“It is not statistically signficiant whether you lock down or not,” he said. “So why are we doing it?”
Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi (video screenshot)
Businesses should reopen and people should return to work as the testing continues, he said.
The physicians, noting they each have studied microbiology for 20 years, said that the nation’s initial response to the outbreak was probably a good idea “when you don’t have any facts.”
“Now that we have the facts,” said Erickson. “It’s time to get back to work.”
Historically, they argued, we’ve always quarantined the sick.
“We’ve never seen where you quarantine the healthy.”
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The data they have gathered is consistent with what they see across the nation and around the world, based on information from the Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization.
In California, they estimate a case fatality rate of 0.03{154653b9ea5f83bbbf00f55de12e21cba2da5b4b158a426ee0e27ae0c1b44117}.
“Does that necessitate sheltering in place? Does that necessitate shutting down the medical system? Does that necessitate people being out of work?”
Erickson said Accelerated Urgent Care has been in communication with the Kern County Public Health Department regarding whether the state should reopen.
In response, reported ABC 23 in Bakersfield, public health said that in its “ongoing effort to mitigate the impacts of COVID-19 on our residents and healthcare system, we continue to adhere to the guidance issued by Governor (Gavin) Newsom regarding the stay at home order.”
Significantly different?
Erickson noted that 96{154653b9ea5f83bbbf00f55de12e21cba2da5b4b158a426ee0e27ae0c1b44117} of people infected with the coronavirus recover with no significant medical problems.
“Two months ago we didn’t know this,” he said.
“The more positives you get from testing, the prevalence number goes up and the deaths remain the same,” he said.
Which means there are millions of cases and a “small amount of death.”
“You will see that in every state,” he said.
“The reason I am making that point is because we’re going to compare this to flu and say, ‘Is this significantly different from influenza A or B?’ And if not, why has our response been what it is?”
In a typical year, there are between 37,000 and 60,000 deaths from the flu.
“No pandemic talks. No sheltering in place. No shutting down of businesses. No sending doctors home,” he said.
The physicians were asked why they they have confidence in their view of sheltering in place when it conflicts with the mainstream, including the stance of the top White House health adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Massihi said it’s not about being right or wrong, emphasizing they are learning everyday and examining trends on the ground.
“We’re not seeing what they have been seeing the past six to eight weeks,” he said.
The reporter followed up asking, why is their view different?
“We’re actually seeing the patients,” he said. “Dr. Fauci hasn’t seen a patient for 20 years. … He’s in an ivory tower. We have a world of respect for him. He’s world-renowned immunologist. … But academics and reality is two different things.”
“We’re just presenting our data and our opinion as medical professionals in this community,” Massihi said.
In fact, as WND reported, Fauci co-authored an article published March 26 in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a “severe seasonal influenza.”
In an exceptionally bad flu season, the case fatality rate is about one-tenth of 1 percent, the Fauci and his co-authors wrote.
Regarding the current coronavirus pandemic, they said: “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1{154653b9ea5f83bbbf00f55de12e21cba2da5b4b158a426ee0e27ae0c1b44117}.”
Harmful effects
The doctors warned the practice of sheltering-in-place will be harmful long-term.
First, they and other physicians they’ve surveyed see the secondary effect of a spike in incidents of child abuse, domestic violence, substance abuse and the loss of income.
“All of these are a significantly more detrimental thing to society than a virus that is proven similar in nature to the seasonal flu that we have every year,” Erickson said.
Secondly, they argued sheltering in place weakens the personal immunity that is built and maintained through daily exposure to all kinds of viruses and bacteria that are not virulent.
And, among other things, Vitamin D levels are diminished and mood, which affects immunity, is lowered.
The constant disinfecting only makes it worse, Erickson said.
Massihi said healthy people should not wear masks and gloves, because that further reduces interaction with good bacterial flora that protect from other diseases.
“As you come out of sheltering in place, with a lower immune system and start trading viruses and bacteria, what do you think is going to happen? Disease is going to spike,” Erickson said.
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Doug Harrison
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These two need to do a bit of research on Fauci. They would find that their faith in his judgement is very much misplaced. Or perhaps they are afraid to disagree. Fauci has form there too.
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dev
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I watched it when it came out as it has been censored by youtube now and repeatedly deleted. Dr Erickson was very lucid, clear and logical with the information he presented.
Quarantine – restrict the movement of the sick.
Tyranny – restrict the movement of the healthy
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geran
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Worth repeating:
Quarantine – restrict the movement of the sick.
Tyranny – restrict the movement of the healthy
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Doordenker
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Also worth repeating:
YouTube – WeCensor
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Norman
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Dev
Your statement is valid but with a lack of testing how are you to determine who is sick and who is healthy?
South Korea successfully implemented your concept and it worked. No lockdown, economy fine but they tested and tracked infections and quarantined those testing positive, not with healthy people (like family members) but in compounds with other infected people. If someone took a turn for the worse they were hospitalized.
Without such measures you will risk the death of many who do not need to die.
And to counter with an article from another Doctor who claims it is much worse than any flu he has dealt with.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-covid-19-deaths-to-flu-deaths-is-like-comparing-apples-to-oranges/
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Michael
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The ‘Herd Immunity’ these two are using to justify their arguement is a MYTH!
In a group of humans in which just one has SARS-CoV-2 and therefore COVID2 be theY asymptomatic or symptomatic they will spread the virus around. Other members of the group will therefore be exposed to the virus. The unlucky ones will get infected and take 3 to 4 days before they show symptoms and perhaps follow the rules and self isolate. During those days they will become infectious, it is not known when!
During those days other unfortunates will become infected and a HOT spot will be the result that will perpetuate until all contacts are infected and in quarantine, perhaps!
There is no attenuation, no defense mechanism that transfers your acquired immunity to anyone else on a casual basis, therefore each infected person has to fight the virus essentially alone because the hospitals are all full with early suffers. The observed reaction by sensible people will be to self isolate so as NOT to catch the virus.
People are not dumb animals and can see where no lockdown leads.
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Boris Badenov
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“People are not dumb animals and can see where no lockdown leads.”
Well let’s see, lockdown, healthy but no money, no home, no hope.
No Lockdown, possible death, or money, home, hope.
Or, lockdown, the fascists learn the LOVE the power
No Lockdown after people rise up, it puts the fascists in their place….for a while.
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tom0mason
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The video is available at https://www.bitchute.com/video/NkiM9fo1Ba0h/
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