Just One Sentence…..

Written by Hans Schreuder

 

There you have it, from a credentialed climate scientist, Dr Roy Spencer,  written on the  sixth day of the sixth month of 2019: “It’s the starting point for all climate science, and no credentialed skeptic I know  of disputes it.”

Spreading direct sunlight over the entire earth all at once is “ the starting point for all climate science …”.

H/t to  Joe Postma for finding this on the Facebook account of the mentioned climate scientist. The context can be found by clicking this link

https://climateofsophistry.com/2019/06/06/real-time-physics-debunks-climate-theory/

In one single sentence a credentialed climate scientist debunks the entire climate alarm industry. Further context can be gleaned from:

https://climateofsophistry.com/2019/01/10/how-long-is-twilight/

No matter any other point of view, any other argument or any other consideration.

That’s also the sole reason for the invention of an atmospheric “greenhouse effect”, for giving carbon dioxide its magical “climate forcing” ability and with that the entire basis for all climate alarm at the hands of the human emissions of carbon dioxide.

There is nothing more to add to this short message.

You’ve all been had at the hands of credentialed climate scientists and their proprietary mathematics trickery.

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Comments (17)

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    William Walter Kay

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    The headline quote from Spencer is a sentence fragment. Where is the statement from whence this quote be taken?

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    Hans Schreuder

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    WWK, how about clicking the link that says “The context can be found by clicking this link”.

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      William Walter Kay

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      That link takes me to a 17 minute video by Postma not to the article by Spencer.

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        Squidly

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        Watch the freaking video .. it is outlined and highlighted there .. in absolutely full context !!!

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          William Walter Kay

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          For those looking for the Holy Grail of quotes you will find it on Roy’s Facebook post of June 4 (not June 6 as stated above and in the video). Roy’s comment is a reply to Penelope.

          Roy does NOT say that sunlight strikes Earth all around and all once. He reminds Joe that Earth rotates and as such solar energy gets applied across Earth’s surface. Joe wastes 17 minutes attacking a straw man.

          Earth’s average global surface temperature is around 14.9 C. No one is suggesting that it is exactly 14.9 C everywhere and all the time; it’s an average.

          350 Wm2 is the same kind of a number — it’s an average. Now move on!

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            Squidly

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            You’re an idiot who clearly did not read and/or watch the exchange as it happened. Nothing you just said makes any sense at all. And you say “now move on!” ??? .. really? .. no, it’s you who needs to move on. You were the moron that made the first comment. You’re the idiot that thinks he/she knows something but is clearly ignorant of the topic at hand. You either need to shut up or go learn what is going on before opening your stupid trapper. moron!

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    FauxScienceSlayer

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    “Rocket Scientist Need Not Apply” > my rebuttal to Roy’s ‘Cold Makes Hot’ hypothesis, at CanadaFreePress, July 2010

    “Mommie, Can We Play Obombie Truth Origami” > my reply to Roy after the Heartland ICCC-9 Lukewarmist Love Fest in Vegas, at FauxScienceSlayer, July 2014

    “Spencer Sorcery on Magic Gas” my reply to Roy after Heritage Crossroad Summit, Houston, at FauxScienceSlayer, Sept 2014

    Every Lukewarmist is willfully ignorant on Thermodynamics and impervious to reason.

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    William Walter Kay

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    For those looking for the Holy Grail of quotes you will find it on Roy’s Facebook post of June 4 (not June 6 as stated above and in the video). Roy’s comment is a reply to Penelope.

    Roy does NOT say that sunlight strikes Earth all around and all once. He reminds Joe that Earth rotates and as such solar energy gets applied across Earth’s surface. Joe wastes 17 minutes attacking a straw man.

    Earth’s average global surface temperature is around 14.9 C. No one is suggesting that it is exactly 14.9 C everywhere and all the time; it’s an average.

    350 Wm2 is the same kind of a number — it’s an average. Now move on!

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      Al Shelton

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      Dr. Spencer said that CO2 acts like a blanket and traps heat.
      But a blanket is a solid and CO2 is a gas.
      The blanket can slow down the heated CO2 , but CO2, being a gas, expands and rises, thereby acting as a coolant. No?

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        Nicholas Schroeder

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        The thermal resistance of the entire atmospheric blanket performs behaves the same as the insulated walls of a house” Q = 1/ R A dT.

        It’s the “R'” that’s printed all over products in the Home Depot aisle.

        Emissivity & the Heat Balance

        Emissivity is defined as the amount of radiative heat leaving a surface to the theoretical maximum or BB radiation at the surface temperature. The heat balance defines what enters and leaves a system, i.e.
        Incoming = outgoing, W/m^2 = radiative + conductive + convective + latent
        Emissivity = radiative / total W/m^2 = radiative / (radiative + conductive + convective + latent)

        In a vacuum (conductive + convective + latent) = 0 and emissivity equals 1.0.

        In open air full of molecules other transfer modes reduce radiation’s share and emissivity, e.g.:
        conduction = 15%, convection =35%, latent = 30%, radiation & emissivity = 20%

        The Instruments & Measurements

        But wait, you say, upwelling LWIR power flux is actually measured.

        Well, no it’s not.

        IR instruments, e.g. pyrheliometers, radiometers, etc. don’t directly measure power flux. They measure a relative temperature compared to heated/chilled/calibration/reference thermistors or thermopiles and INFER a power flux using that comparative temperature and ASSUMING an emissivity of 1.0. The Apogee instrument instruction book actually warns the owner/operator about this potential error noting that ground/surface emissivity can be less than 1.0.

        That this warning went unheeded explains why SURFRAD upwelling LWIR with an assumed and uncorrected emissivity of 1.0 measures TWICE as much upwelling LWIR as incoming ISR, a rather egregious breach of energy conservation.

        This also explains why USCRN data shows that the IR (SUR_TEMP) parallels the 1.5 m air temperature, (T_HR_AVG) and not the actual ground (SOIL_TEMP_5). The actual ground is warmer than the air temperature with few exceptions, contradicting the RGHE notion that the air warms the ground.

        Conclusion

        So, the 396 W/m^2 upwelling LWIR and net 333 W/m^2 GHG energy loop of RGHE and the K-T diagram and RGHE claim that the air warms the ground are all illusions due to misunderstood instruments.

        No GHG energy loop = No RGHE theory = No man-caused climate change.

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      Hans Schreuder

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      WWK, just like Roy himself and with him all other mainstream skeptics, you are missing the point entirely. Any average is not an actual parameter. The issue here is about the fact that the entire climate science debacle is based on an average and that such an average gets the entire climate industry off in the wrong direction. That average sunlight dictates the need for an additional source of energy to reach your mentioned, magical, average temperature. Considering your comments please note that I will not educate you further; work it out by yourself; move on as you suggest we do.

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    Robert Beatty

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    Well said Hans, but why no go back one step further and ask; What control can humans have over the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere?
    If the answer is zero as taught by William Henry 1803, the rest of the discussion becomes acedemic.

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    Damian

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    The entire, theoretical basis of the climate crisis is the inability of our theories to explain Venus.
    The runaway greenhouse effect and tipping points have never been observed and were invented as the process by which Co2 could create Venus’ heat.
    The Earth’s climate has survived the Last 450 millions years through countless catastrophes because there are no positive feedback loops in nature. All feedbacks lead to homeostasis.
    The process theorised to cause the greenhouse effect only exists in theories about planetary atmospheres. In the real world we use greenhouse gasses for cooling and refrigeration.

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      Nicholas Schroeder

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      Venus, we are told, has an atmosphere that is almost pure carbon dioxide and an extremely high surface temperature, 750 K, and this is allegedly due to the radiative greenhouse effect, RGHE. But the only apparent defense is, “Well, WHAT else could it BE?!”

      Well, what follows is the else it could be. (Q = U * A * ΔT)

      Venus is 70% of the Earth’s distance to the sun, its average solar constant/irradiance is about twice as intense as that of earth, 2,602 W/m^2 as opposed to 1,361 W/m^2.

      But the albedo of Venus is 0.77 compared to 0.31 for the Earth – or – Venus 601.5 W/m^2 net ASR (absorbed solar radiation) compared to Earth 943.9 W/m^2 net ASR.

      The Venusian atmosphere is 250 km thick as opposed to Earth’s at 100 km. Picture how hot you would get stacking 1.5 more blankets on your bed. RGHE’s got jack to do with it, it’s all Q = U * A * ΔT.

      The thermal conductivity of carbon dioxide is about half that of air, 0.0146 W/m-K as opposed to 0.0240 W/m-K so it takes twice the ΔT/m to move the same kJ from surface to ToA.

      Put the higher irradiance & albedo (lower Q = lower ΔT), thickness (greater thickness increases ΔT) and conductivity (lower conductivity raises ΔT) all together: 601.5/943.9 * 250/100 * 0.0240/0.0146 = 2.61.

      So, Q = U * A * ΔT suggests that the Venusian ΔT would be 2.61 times greater than that of Earth. If the surface of the Earth is 15C/288K and ToA is effectively 0K then Earth ΔT = 288K. Venus ΔT would be 2.61 * 288 K = 748.8 K surface temperature.

      All explained, no need for any S-B BB RGHE LWIR hocus pocus.

      Simplest explanation for the observation.

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    Nicholas Schroeder

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    If my anti-theorem is incorrect why so and how so and bring science.
    If my anti-theorem is correct contemplate the consequences.
    That would make some sho’ nuff non-fake news.

    The GreenHouse Effect Anti-Theory

    By reflecting away 30% of the incoming solar energy the atmosphere/albedo makes the earth cooler than it would be without the atmosphere much like that reflective panel behind a car’s windshield.
    Greenhouse theory has it wrong.

    The non-radiative processes of a contiguous participating media, i.e. atmospheric molecules, render ideal black body LWIR from the surface impossible. The 396 W/m^2 upwelling from the surface is a “what if” theoretical calculation without physical reality. (refer to: TFK_bams09)
    Greenhouse theory has it wrong.

    Without the 396 W/m^2 upwelling there is no 333 W/m^2 GHG energy up/down/”back” loop to “warm” the earth. (refer to: TFK_bams09)
    Greenhouse theory has it wrong.

    Man caused climate change is negated by these three points. Hysterical speculations over sea levels, ice caps, glaciers, extreme weather, etc. are irrelevant noise.

    Zero greenhouse effect, Zero CO2 global warming and Zero man caused climate change.

    Geoengineering

    One popular geoengineering strategy proposed for countering imaginary global warming/climate change is through reducing net solar heating by increasing the earth’s albedo.

    This increase is accomplished by various physical methods, e.g. injecting reflective aerosols into the atmosphere, spraying water vapor into the air to enhance marine cloud brightening, spreading shiny glass spheres around the poles with the goal of more reflection thereby reducing the net amount of solar energy absorbed by the atmosphere and surface and cooling the earth.

    More albedo and the earth cools.

    Less albedo and the earth warms.

    No atmosphere means no water vapor or clouds, ice, snow, vegetation, oceans and near zero albedo and much like the moon the earth bakes in that 394 K, 121 C, 250 F solar wind.

    These geoengineering plans rely on the atmosphere cooling the earth thereby exposing the error of greenhouse theory which says the atmosphere warms the earth and with no atmosphere the earth becomes a -430 F frozen ball of ice.

    Zero greenhouse effect, Zero CO2 global warming and Zero man caused climate change.

    Space – the Hotter Frontier

    One of the heated issues underlying greenhouse theory is whether space is hot or cold.

    Greenhouse theory says that without an atmosphere the earth would be exposed to a near zero outer space and become a frozen ice ball at -430 F, 17 K.

    Geoengineering techniques that increase the albedo, the ISS’s ammonia refrigerant air conditioners, an air conditioner in the manned maneuvering unit, space suits including thermal underwear with chilled water tubing, UCLA Diviner lunar data and Kramm’s models (Univ of AK) all provide substantial evidence that outer space is relatively hot.

    But outer space is neither hot nor cold.

    By definition and application temperature is a relative measurement of the molecular kinetic energy in a substance, i.e. solid, liquid, gas. No molecules (vacuum), no temperature. No kinetic energy (absolute zero), no temperature. In the void & vacuum of outer space the terms temperature, hot, cold are meaningless, like dividing by zero, undefined.

    However, any substance capable of molecular kinetic energy (ISS, space walker, satellite, moon, earth) placed in the path of the spherical expanding solar photon gas at the earth’s average orbital distance will be heated per the S-B equation to an equilibrium temperature of: 1,368 W/m^2 = 394 K, 121 C, 250 F.

    Like a blanket held up between a camper and campfire the atmosphere reduces the amount of solar energy heating the terrestrial system and cools the earth compared to no atmosphere.

    This intuitively obvious as well as calculated and measured scientific reality refutes the greenhouse theory.

    Zero greenhouse effect, Zero CO2 global warming and Zero man caused climate change.

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