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Did NASA Know Back in 1958 our Sun, Not CO2 Drives Climate Change?

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Coincidence? Across the top of the stamp above is the wording ‘International Geophysical Year 1957-1958,’ arranged in two lines, and across the bottom is ‘U.S. Postage 3c.’ All the lettering is in white-face Gothic. Philosophy of Science Portal

It is undeniable, climate change is real, however, climate alarmists, the establishment, most of the world leaders and leading media outlets want us to believe the reason behind climate change is the fault of human beings using fossil fuels and our high use of CO2, Carbon Dioxide.

They claim Carbon dioxide absorbs more sunlight passing through it than oxygen or nitrogen, and therefore becomes hotter, much like a black substance like tar becomes hotter than a white one like concrete. This has the effect of increasing the overall temperature of the Earth. as we add more carbon dioxide to the air, the temperature will continue to rise.

Actually, the records of temperature and CO2 over the past 650,000 years indicate that Earth’s temperature always rises first, followed by a rise in Carbon Dioxide. Published papers, clearly show it is always temperature which rises first by at least several hundred years and then the carbon dioxide responds.

The records of temperature and CO2 over the past 650,000 years indicate that Earth’s temperature always rises first, followed by a rise in Carbon Dioxide. Graph izzit.org

In their seminal paper on the Vostok Ice Core, Petit et al (1999) note that CO2 lags temperature during the onset of glaciations by several thousand years. They also observe that CH4 and CO2 are not perfectly aligned with each other. At the onset of glaciations, the temperature drops to glacial values before CO2 begins to fall suggesting that CO2 has little influence on temperature modulation at these times.

Credit WUWT

Credit NASA

Ladies and gentlemen, if I was to tell you, major earthquakes, volcano eruptions, floods, cyclones and natural disasters, all mirror that graph above and they all spike after Christmas Eve and Christmas Day 1957, you would come to the conclusion our Sun is causing climate change/disaster change and not humans, see graph below.

Every graph, they all provide the same data. Credit Wikipedia.

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    Ken Irwin

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    How many satellites did we have in orbit in 1957 ?
    How many southern hemisphere weather stations were there in 1957 ?
    How many CO2 reading stations were there in 1957 ?
    How many seismometers were there in 1957 ?
    How many vulcanologists, climatologists etc. etc.
    How many scientific papers were (or needed to be) written in 1957 ?
    How many research grants were needed / available in 1957 ?
    I very much suspect that much of that data uptick is more to do with intensifed searching and motivation than it is to do with actual change.

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      Jerry Krause

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      Hi Ken,

      If I know my history correctly, the answer to the first question is none.

      But I do not know what your answers to your other questions might be. But I know that the USA and New Zealand and other nations had weather stations along the coast of Antarctica and for the geological year there was a project for an expedition to cross the continent. And I know the Sir Edmond Hillary wrote a book about his part of this project. Which I consider is very informative even if I seldom ever read anyone referring to it.

      I have found that a very significant problem is too many people have little to no knowledge of even relatively recent history. This maybe does not apply to you for as I have just written I cannot know what you know or do not know. I only know what I know.

      Have a good day, Jerry

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    Joseph Olson

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    Human CO2 cannot
    Alter the 3% distance and 9% isolation due to Earth’s elliptical solar orbit.
    Alter the natural solar output variability.
    Alter Earth’s variable internal fission heat.
    Alter the Coriolis Effect or lunar atmospheric tides that cause Hadley cell distribution.

    Climaclownology is > “Modern Phrenology Society Newsletter” > FauxScienceSlayer(.)com

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    chris

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    When sunlight warms CO2 in the air the CO2 does begin to become warmer. However, when it is a trivial amount warmer than the surrounding gases it transfers its heat to the other gases. The result is that the temp never really increases as CO2 changes heat to temp at a lower level than does other gases. Then the gases rise and lose heat to surrounding gases. The result is no increased temp. At least not from the CO2 explanation given by alarmists.

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      Zoe Phin

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      Chris,
      “when it is a trivial amount warmer than the surrounding gases it transfers its heat to the other gases.”

      The funny part is that the radiation budget shows GHGs sending all the radiation it receives. Therefore GHGs can’t transfer their vibrational energy into translational energy, otherwise there would be no or less vibrational energy to generate IR – and destroying the radiation balance.

      By conserving radiation flows, there is no heating of the air by GHGs.

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      T L Winslow

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      [[When sunlight warms CO2 in the air the CO2 does begin to become warmer.]]

      Duh, sunlight doesn’t warm atmospheric CO2, surface infrared radiation does. And it actually doesn’t warm it, because its absorption wavelength is 15 microns, which corresponds to a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, about the same as dry ice. Instead, surface IR warms all of the air via conduction, causing it to begin rising via convection, taking the Sun’s heat toward space and losing most of it to create the atmospheric lapse rate before reaching the tropopause, where convection ends, and it slowly loses the rest in the stagnant stratosphere via Planck radiation.

      The entire mountain of IPCC CO2-driven AGW lit. is based on claiming that what amounts to dry ice in the sky causes global warming 🙂

      http://www.historyscoper.com/thebiglieaboutco2.html

      Learn all about my new real climate science from my free online course:

      http://www.historyscoper.com/newrealclimatesciencecourse.html

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        Sean

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        One of the techniques I learned in high-school physics for dealing with a continuum that varied across a dimension was to break it up into slices, making the slices as narrow as necessary to be able to treat each slice as being uniform. It has always disturbed me that the fundamental premise of the AGW community, that GHGs ‘trap’ heat, requires that each slice of the atmosphere, after absorbing heat from the warmer air or ground below it, somehow fails to radiate that heat equally in all directions and preferentially radiates the heat back down toward the warmer environment below it.

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